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Feb 20, 2020
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- Ep 37 Community Spotlight:
- 704.3
- Commander Rules!
- Obligatory disclaimer - We’re not telling you how to feel. We are simply discussing the results of polling on the subject of milling and stating why we feel the way we do.
- Millstone
- An alternate way to win, also a way to fuel your graveyard (ie your second hand)
- What is Milling?
- This tends to be especially true for newer players. I know I used to feel this way when I first started playing Magic. I also used to look at the top card of my library after mulliganing, I don’t do this anymore. To the folks out there, do you look after mulliganing?
- Ryan’s Dad: story about using Millstone
- I want to possibly convince folks out there that this isn’t that bad, and could even be a good thing. Here’s how I convinced Zack
- Some players really get upset when they get milled or Cards taken with Gonti/Grenzo
- Ryan asked these questions
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- Why are you sad when you get milled?
- Do you feel sad when you don’t draw a particular card during a game?
- Would you feel differently if the cards went to the bottom of your library instead of your graveyard?
- How would you feel if you could start with half of your deck in your graveyard?
- The mental energy you’re expending on thinking about the cards you could have drawn (or got milled), could be put to better use, like making a plan.
- Any number of possibilities could have been. Due to variance there is no way to guarantee the cards that would have milled would have been drawn.(Maybe a better way to phrase this is, it kinda just changes where your opponent cut your deck)
- The more you know what’s in your graveyard, the more you know about the other cards in your deck
- Zack said in general being milled made him feel slightly sad about the possibilities that could have been.
- Cards in hands are actual possibilities
- In this same way, cards taken with Gonti aren’t the same as cards taken with Blatant Thievery/Expropriate, cause you didn’t invest any resources like card/mana into the things being stolen
- Cards in your graveyard are a resource as well. Your opponent could cast Patriarch’s Bidding or Exhume for example
- Sometimes it does sting if your deck is built on a specific 2 card combo. I try not to rely on specific cards, because there’s no guarantee you’re going to see them during a game, unless you run a LOT of tutors, and that’s something I don’t frequently do.
- Being milled isn’t the same as discard
- This conversation started after a game with Zack and Ryan where Ryan played Mesmeric Orb and Zack expressed annoyance about being milled.
- How does it make you are milled by an opponent
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- Happy - 25%
- Indifferent - 47.4%
- Sad - 20%
- Responses - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LMNxiqw6fM1_9_x6yz_4x66ukUiJbFj54FD7S3sre00/edit#gid=0
- Happy - 24.4%
- Indifferent - 47.4%
- Sad - 28.2%
- Responses - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LMNxiqw6fM1_9_x6yz_4x66ukUiJbFj54FD7S3sre00/edit#gid=898744610
- How does it make you feel when an opponent's Gonti, Lord of Luxury targets you.
- We polled twitter and the general consensus was…
- Information about what’s left in your deck
- Deck thinning?
- An increasing number of EDH decks revolve around some sort of graveyard strategy.
- The upsides milling
- Run removal for the things that are milling you.
- Giant Eldrazi like Kozilek, Butcher of Truth or Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
- You can run cards like Homeward Path
- What to do if you are being milled are cards taken
- Summary - Being milled can actually be a good thing. So what do you think about being milled? Let us know how you feel on twitter or in the comments.
- Main Topic - Learning to Love Mill
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